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#30059: "For ARENA rewards count the PEAK of the SCORE instead of the current score"
#30059: "For ARENA rewards count the PEAK of the SCORE instead of the current score"
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Що трапилося? Будь ласка, виберіть нижче
Пропозиція: на мій погляд, наступне значно покращить вебсайт
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Детальний опис
• Будь ласка, скопіюйте/вставте повідомлення про помилку, якщо ви бачите якесь на своєму екрані.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Будь ласка, опишіть, що ви намагалися зробити, що зробили, та що трапилось
• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Будь ласка, скопіюйте/вставте текст відображений англійською замість вашої мови. Якщо ви маєте знімок екрана з помилкою (рекомендована практика), то можете використати Imgur.com, щоб завантажити його, та скопіювати посилання на нього сюди.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Чи цей текст доступний у системі перекладів? Якщо так, то чи перекладали його понад 24 години тому?
• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Будь ласка, поясніть вашу пропозицію точно й лаконічно, щоб було якомога легше зрозуміти, що ви маєте на увазі.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Що було на екрані до того, як ваша гра заблокувалася (Порожній екран? Частина ігрового інтерфейсу? Повідомлення про помилку?)
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Які саме правила були порушені адаптацією гри на BGA
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Чи видні порушення правил на повторі гри? Якщо так, на якому кроці?
• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Яку ігрову дію ви намагалися виконати?
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Що ви намагались зробити, щоб активувати цю ігрову дію?
• Що сталося, коли Ви намагалися виконати цю дію (текст помилки, статус на панелі повідомлень, ...)?
• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• На якому етапі гри виникла проблема (яка була на той момент вказівка в грі)?
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Що стається, коли ви намагаєтесь зробити ігрову дію (повідомлення про помилку, повідомлення на панелі статусу гри і т.п.)?
• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Будь ласка, опишіть візуальну помилку. Якщо ви маєте знімок екрана з помилкою (рекомендована практика), то можете використати Imgur.com, щоб завантажити його, та скопіювати посилання на нього сюди.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Будь ласка, скопіюйте/вставте текст відображений англійською замість вашої мови. Якщо ви маєте знімок екрана з помилкою (рекомендована практика), то можете використати Imgur.com, щоб завантажити його, та скопіювати посилання на нього сюди.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Чи цей текст доступний у системі перекладів? Якщо так, то чи перекладали його понад 24 години тому?
• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
• Будь ласка, поясніть вашу пропозицію точно й лаконічно, щоб було якомога легше зрозуміти, що ви маєте на увазі.
Idea is instead of the ladder being filtered by current score. Filter it by highest score player had achieved during that season.
Why this would be better?
1. It will prevent "parking" the score.
2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve.
3. By providing greater number of players to be in the pool it's also easier to climb and it's more rewarding to play.
How it should be done?
In the profile present the peak score and sort the ladder by highest score achieved with a current score in the brackest.
Something like:
Player A 1998 (1998)
Player B 1997 (1900)
Player C 1950 (1930)• Який у вас браузер?
Google Chrome v87
Історія звітів
14 гру 2020 19:30 • Wonderful Plays • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
Mandatory field
15 гру 2020 8:33 • Wonderful Plays • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
Relevant discussion topic on the forum:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18661
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=18661
31 гру 2020 8:04 • compte obelète • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
So if i understand, if a tie happens, we gonna use their actual ones to break it, but if is the same again whit their actual, use the average amount of score win, if still a tie, then, simply make the earlier one the winner.
31 гру 2020 13:29 • Wonderful Plays • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
In case of a tie I would propose to actually use the current score.
I also believe the ELO has a hidden component. So it's actually like 1684.48 instead of 1684 that is showed, so ties are much less likely than we think.
I also believe the ELO has a hidden component. So it's actually like 1684.48 instead of 1684 that is showed, so ties are much less likely than we think.
31 гру 2020 15:26 • Wonderful Plays • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
I made a video talking about this and another suggestion:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQ_rRukeeM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQ_rRukeeM
5 січ 2021 9:50 • mumpsimus • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
I don't see that there is a huge problem with parking? If the top player stops playing, they will be overtaken by others, because it's relatively easy to gain points as it is. I think scoring in arena is fine as it is.
6 січ 2021 6:40 • ucarts • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
Parking is certainly a valid problem, which is why a lot of systems will decay ratings of players who have not played very many games recently, or hide those players from the list. Using a peak score would work too. I'm not certain which of these solutions is the better approach, but I think either would be an improvement.
For me, I've found that the high volatility (K factor is too large given the low spread of ratings among the playerbase - I can elaborate but do not want to go off topic too much) can cause my rating to be higher than my true skill - at which point playing any further games would likely decrease my rating. I personally switched over to casual games when I made it to the top 20 and will plan do so again this season (well, maybe I'll wait until I'm 1st or 2nd before I park). There definitely wouldn't be a point where I stop playing arena in order to preserve rating if the system used peak rating instead of current rating, since then I'd have nothing to lose by playing more.
As for those who think that a high-skilled player who stops playing will simply be overtaken by people who play more, I would encourage them to look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
For me, I've found that the high volatility (K factor is too large given the low spread of ratings among the playerbase - I can elaborate but do not want to go off topic too much) can cause my rating to be higher than my true skill - at which point playing any further games would likely decrease my rating. I personally switched over to casual games when I made it to the top 20 and will plan do so again this season (well, maybe I'll wait until I'm 1st or 2nd before I park). There definitely wouldn't be a point where I stop playing arena in order to preserve rating if the system used peak rating instead of current rating, since then I'd have nothing to lose by playing more.
As for those who think that a high-skilled player who stops playing will simply be overtaken by people who play more, I would encourage them to look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
3 вер 2021 23:23 • dschingis27 • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
"2. It will incetivize people to play more as they are never afraid of loosing ranking, they just have a chance to improve."
Not really sure if it would overall incentivize to play more. Yes, you are not afraid of loosing but this part, "they just have a chance to improve" is not entirely true. Very often your peak score will not change at all after a play session, increasing the peak score can get really hard and people might quickly get stuck at a certain ranking and lose interest.
However, it really just needs to be tested out!
Not really sure if it would overall incentivize to play more. Yes, you are not afraid of loosing but this part, "they just have a chance to improve" is not entirely true. Very often your peak score will not change at all after a play session, increasing the peak score can get really hard and people might quickly get stuck at a certain ranking and lose interest.
However, it really just needs to be tested out!
17 січ 2022 3:26 • Respublik • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
It would increase play anyways if active players aren't parking to protect their score.
11 лип 2023 16:31 • Wonderful Plays • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
This is still very much needed, BGA when this is getting implemented?
18 лют 2024 10:39 • KongKing123 • Цю пропозицію розробники ще не проаналізували:
Bump to avoid automatic closure.
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Будь ласка, додайте тут усе, на вашу думку, важливе, що дозволить нам відтворити вашу помилку чи ліпше зрозуміти вашу пропозицію:
- ID іншого столу / ходу
- F5 вирішило проблему?
- Чи виникає проблема періодично? Щоразу? Випадково?
- Якщо ви маєте знімок екрана з помилкою (рекомендована практика), то можете використати Imgur.com, щоб завантажити його, та скопіювати посилання на нього сюди.
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