#157232: "Use 9 One-Off effect against point cards"
Про що цей звіт?
Що трапилося? Будь ласка, виберіть нижче
Що трапилося? Будь ласка, виберіть нижче
Будь ласка, перевірте, чи вже є звіт на цю тему
Якщо це так, будь ласка, ПРОГОЛОСУЙТЕ за цей звіт. Звіти з найбільшою кількістю голосів розглядатимуть У ПЕРШУ ЧЕРГУ!
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Детальний опис
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• Будь ласка, скопіюйте/вставте повідомлення про помилку, якщо ви бачите якесь на своєму екрані.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Будь ласка, опишіть, що ви намагалися зробити, що зробили, та що трапилось
Could not use 9 ability.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Будь ласка, скопіюйте/вставте текст відображений англійською замість вашої мови. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Чи цей текст доступний у системі перекладів? Якщо так, то чи перекладали його понад 24 години тому?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Будь ласка, поясніть вашу пропозицію точно й лаконічно, щоб було якомога легше зрозуміти, що ви маєте на увазі.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Що було на екрані до того, як ваша гра заблокувалася (Порожній екран? Частина ігрового інтерфейсу? Повідомлення про помилку?)
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Які саме правила були порушені адаптацією гри на BGA
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Чи видні порушення правил на повторі гри? Якщо так, на якому кроці?
Could not use 9 ability.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Яку ігрову дію ви намагалися виконати?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Що ви намагались зробити, щоб активувати цю ігрову дію?
Could not use 9 ability.
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• Що сталося, коли Ви намагалися виконати цю дію (текст помилки, статус на панелі повідомлень, ...)?
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• На якому етапі гри виникла проблема (яка була на той момент вказівка в грі)?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
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• Що стається, коли ви намагаєтесь зробити ігрову дію (повідомлення про помилку, повідомлення на панелі статусу гри і т.п.)?
Could not use 9 ability.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Будь ласка, опишіть візуальну помилку. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Будь ласка, скопіюйте/вставте текст відображений англійською замість вашої мови. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Чи цей текст доступний у системі перекладів? Якщо так, то чи перекладали його понад 24 години тому?
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
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• Будь ласка, поясніть вашу пропозицію точно й лаконічно, щоб було якомога легше зрозуміти, що ви маєте на увазі.
Tried to use a 9, but the ability was grayed out. It said move effect to top of pile. It should move any card to the top of the deck regardless of what it is.
• Який у вас браузер?
Safari v18.3
Історія звітів
www.pagat.com/combat/cuttle.html
The 9 should only be able to target active Permanent Effects on the table (even with the Deck Nines alternative rule). The game appears to be acting correctly in this case.
Since the balanced rules are inspired by the cuttle.cards variant, I'm okay making this change, but I would like to make sure it would be good for the game.
Most of the changes cuttle.cards made from the base rules are clarified in a discussion on Discord or a Reddit thread, but I cannot find any reference to this difference.
I basically want to make sure it wasn't an accident that just continued to be propagated.
As noted in the "variations" section of the pagat page, this effect, as written is almost **entirely** useles, as the opponent can simply play the returned card on their next turn, at which poitn we are in the exact same situation with the sole change of the person who played the nine no longer having the nine in their hand
This means that in the exact wording on pagat, the only time where playing a 9 for its effect would matter at all is a time where it immediately wins you the game (because you targeted a jack), and the only time that this would be any more beneficial than simply playing the 9 for points is when the player with the 9 has exactly 11 points and their opponent has previously jacked a 10
That's an interesting scenario but it clearly doesn't succeed at delivering an effect that captures the feeling of "sending things back" while being paractiaclly useful
cuttle.cards actually predates the update to the "Variations" section where the suggestion for forcing opponents to wait an additional turn was added to the pagat page (only under variations)
When I was first learning the game with my sister back around 2013, it was quickly clear that the 9's effect as written wasn't useful. We aimed to make a minimal change to make the effect usable, while preserving its feel. That's why we landed on the same idea you now see in the pagat page: requiring the opponent to wait an additional turn to play the returned card
The specific question here is whether or not the 9 One-Off should be used only on Permanent Effects, or if it should be useable against point cards as well.
It should be immediately active in all games, just refresh the page if necessary.
"9 did not let me use ability"
changed to
"Use 9 One-Off effect against point cards"
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- Чи виникає проблема періодично? Щоразу? Випадково?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
